65 | S010 | Strength Within

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Wrapping Up The Courage to Explore

In this heartfelt final episode of 2024, the PROTECT Podcast explores the profound value of inner strength as Sunny meets his new guide, Goro the Gorilla. Through a challenging climb up a rocky hillside, Goro teaches Sunny that true strength isn’t about physical power—it’s about resilience, patience, and the determination to keep going, one step at a time.

Dr. Manaan Kar Ray and Mahi reflect on the interconnected values from The Courage to Explore: courage with Leo, adventure with Max, curiosity with Milo, wonder with Hazel, and now inner strength with Goro. Each value builds on the others, forming a foundation for resilience and growth.

The episode also delves into the role of inner strength in mental health, highlighting its importance for navigating stress, building emotional resilience, and supporting others with kindness and compassion. Dr. Kar Ray discusses the vital role inner strength plays for mental health practitioners and the importance of self-care in sustaining their work.

As this special episode marks the end of the year, Mahi bids farewell (for now) as she prepares for her next adventure studying medicine in the UK. Dr. Kar Ray takes a moment to celebrate her growth as a host, storyteller, and voice artist, sharing heartfelt wishes for her journey ahead.

Filled with warmth and wisdom, the episode closes with festive Christmas wishes and a reflection on how the values of The Courage to Explore can guide your New Year’s resolutions. Join us again in January 2025 for The Art of Wisdom, starting with the value of wisdom itself.

May your holidays be filled with courage, adventure, curiosity, wonder, and strength. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

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Transcript

1. Opening Chit Chat and Reflection on Wonder (2-3 mins)

Mahi: Hello, everyone! Welcome back to the PROTECT Podcast. I’m Mahi, and as always, I’m here with the ever-inspiring Dr. Manaan Kar Ray. This is Episode 65, and it’s a special one for many reasons. Not only are we exploring a new value today, but it’s also our final episode before we take a well-deserved Christmas break. Manaan, how are you feeling as we wrap up another amazing year of podcasting?

Manaan: Hi, Mahi! I’m feeling a mix of emotions today. This year has been filled with incredible conversations, stories, and lessons, but today feels especially significant because it marks the end of an era—and possibly the start of a new one. For our listeners who might not know, this could be your last episode as the host of the PROTECT Podcast.

Mahi: That’s right, Manaan. In January, I’m heading to the UK to start my studies in Medicine, which is both exciting and bittersweet. It’s been such a joy to be part of this journey with you and our listeners. But who knows—maybe with some creative virtual sessions, I could still join from time to time?

Manaan: We’ll definitely explore that possibility. I can’t imagine this podcast without your warmth, insight, and energy. From the time you started hosting this show at just 16 years old, you’ve grown so much. Watching you evolve as a host, a voice artist, and a storyteller has been one of my greatest joys—not just as your co-host, but as your father.

Mahi: That means a lot, Manaan. Honestly, I’ve learned so much along the way—not just about podcasting, but also about mental health, values, and the incredible power of storytelling. This podcast has given me the chance to connect with people in ways I never imagined, and it’s something I’ll carry with me forever.

Manaan: You’ve done an extraordinary job, Mahi. From starting as a curious teenager to becoming a polished host and voice artist, your dedication and passion have brought Sunny’s stories to life in ways that have touched so many hearts. Whether it’s through the podcast or the audiobooks for Sunny’s Values, your voice has become a bridge for values to reach children and families across the world.

Mahi: Thank you, Manaan. It’s been such a privilege to be part of this father-daughter project. And, speaking of the future, if I do have to step back, there’s someone waiting in the wings—my brother, Mayank. He just turned 16, and maybe it’s his time to step into the spotlight.

Manaan: That’s true! Mayank has been watching and learning, and I think he could bring his own unique energy and perspective to the show. It would be wonderful to see him carry the torch forward. But no matter what happens, Mahi, your contribution to this podcast will always be the foundation on which it stands. I’m so proud of you.

Mahi: Thank you, Manaan. That means the world to me. And to our listeners, thank you for being part of this journey. Whether I’m here every week or popping in from across the world, this podcast—and its incredible community—will always hold a special place in my heart.

Manaan: Well said, Mahi. And as we prepare for today’s episode on inner strength, I can’t help but feel that this value is so fitting for you. You’ve shown strength, grace, and resilience in everything you’ve done here. Now, let’s dive into the heart of today’s episode.

Mahi: Let’s do it! But first, thank you all for being with us this year. Your support has made every moment of this podcast worthwhile. Let’s explore inner strength together as we celebrate this year’s journey and prepare for new beginnings. So, Manaan, after last week’s dive into wonder with Hazel the Hummingbird, have you had any “wonder-filled” moments?

Manaan: I sure have. After our talk on wonder, I’ve found myself stopping to appreciate the little things more often. Just this morning, I saw the first glimmer of sunrise, and for a second, it felt like time paused. It’s amazing how just looking can turn something as simple as the sky into a moment of magic.

Mahi: That sounds beautiful—and so true. Hazel’s lesson on wonder has stuck with me too. We’ve heard from parents saying their kids have been spotting “mini-wonders” around the house, like spider webs sparkling in the morning light or noticing the wind in the trees. It’s inspiring to see how wonder is woven into even the smallest details of life.

Manaan: It really is. These little wonders help us connect to the world. And speaking of connection, today’s episode is about not just any strength, but that quiet, steady force we call inner strength.

2. Value Introduction with Quotes on Strength (2 mins)

Mahi: Strength is one of those values that shows up in different ways—inside and out. Let’s set the tone with a couple of quotes. Here’s a powerful one from Mahatma Gandhi: “Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will.”

Manaan: Beautifully said. Strength, as Gandhi describes, is a quiet force of resilience and willpower. And here’s another, from Helen Keller: “We could never learn to be brave and patient if there were only joy in the world.”

Mahi: Yes, Keller captures how inner strength grows from experiencing challenges, not just easy times. This kind of strength helps us adapt, even in difficult moments. Inner strength is the foundation that keeps us steady. 

Mahi: Inner strength! It’s something every one of us can develop, and it’s especially important for our young listeners, who are learning to face challenges with resilience. And I hear Sunny’s next guide in Terra Vale has a lot to teach him about this value?

Manaan: Yes! But before we introduce today’s special guest, let’s revisit some guesses from last week’s episode.

3. Guessing Game Recap and Reveal (3-4 mins)

Mahi: Now, last episode, we asked everyone to guess which animal would help Sunny explore inner strength. And we received such thoughtful guesses!

Manaan: Yes, absolutely. First up, we had Ava from Texas, who guessed an elephant. She said, “Elephants are strong, wise, and gentle with each other.” What a wonderful guess, Ava, though not quite what we had in store!

Mahi: Then there was Liam from London, who guessed a lion. A good one, though Leo the Lion has already been Sunny’s guide for courage, so we’re reserving him for that special role.

Manaan: And finally, we have Sarah from Perth, who guessed a…. Drumroll please …. gorilla. Bingo, Sarah! Gorillas are known for their powerful presence but also for their calm, grounded strength. So, without further ado, Sunny’s guide for this journey of strength is… Goro the Gorilla!

Mahi: What an exciting choice! Let’s see how Goro helps Sunny learn about finding strength from within.

4. Storytime with Sunny’s Values Scouts: Strength Within (10 mins)

[Narrate the story of Sunny’s adventure with Goro the Gorilla. Emphasize the moments where Sunny encounters challenges on the climb, showing Goro’s steady guidance as he learns about patience, resilience, and the strength of the mind and spirit.]

Mahi: What a beautiful story. Watching Sunny draw on his own inner strength through the climb was inspiring. Goro’s calm presence was like a grounding force, showing Sunny that real strength doesn’t have to be loud or visible—it’s that quiet determination.

Manaan: Exactly. Goro taught Sunny that inner strength is a steady resilience. It’s that voice inside that says, “I’ll keep going, even when it’s hard.” Goro’s lesson reminds us that strength is just as much about the mind as it is about physical power.

Section 5: Research & Relevance to Mental Health and Wellbeing

Mahi: So, Manaan, why is inner strength such an essential value for mental health and overall resilience?

Manaan: Inner strength is indeed the bedrock of resilience. Research shows that individuals with a well-developed sense of inner strength are better equipped to navigate stress, recover from adversity, and maintain a sense of hope even during the toughest times. It acts as an internal compass, guiding us through life’s challenges and helping us find stability when the external world feels unstable.

The Role of Inner Strength in Mental Health

Mahi: And it’s fascinating how building this inner strength early in life can have such a lasting impact, isn’t it?

Manaan: Absolutely. Studies have shown that children who cultivate inner strength—like learning to self-soothe during stressful moments or finding ways to approach challenges calmly—experience lower levels of anxiety and are better able to manage emotional regulation. They essentially build a lifelong toolkit to navigate life’s ups and downs with resilience.

For adults, inner strength translates to emotional fortitude. It provides a buffer against burnout and chronic stress. Research highlights that resilient individuals tend to have lower levels of cortisol, the stress hormone, which protects them from the harmful physical effects of prolonged stress. Inner strength is also associated with greater psychological flexibility—allowing people to adapt to changing circumstances and maintain a positive outlook even when life feels overwhelming.

Inner Strength for Mental Health Practitioners

Mahi: And this makes me think, Manaan—inner strength must be an especially vital quality for mental health practitioners, right?

Manaan: Absolutely, Mahi. Mental health practitioners embody inner strength every day. Their work often requires them to hold space for individuals in deep distress. Imagine supporting someone in a suicidal crisis or navigating the aftermath of a patient’s death by suicide—these are profoundly challenging moments that demand immense emotional and mental resilience.

Beyond that, practitioners frequently face situations where their efforts might not yield immediate results, or they encounter setbacks that test their resolve. In some cases, they even experience verbal or physical abuse from the very people they’re trying to help. Yet, they find the inner strength to continue showing up, offering care, kindness, and compassion.

Mahi: That kind of resilience must come from a deep well of inner strength—and surely, self-care plays a critical role in maintaining it?

Manaan: Without a doubt. There’s a saying, “You can’t pour from an empty cup,” and it’s especially true for caregivers. To sustain the strength to care for others, mental health practitioners must prioritize their own well-being. Regular self-care practices—like mindfulness, peer support, exercise, or simply taking time to decompress—help replenish that well of strength.

Research supports this: practitioners who engage in consistent self-care report lower levels of burnout and higher job satisfaction. They are also better equipped to maintain empathy and compassion, which are critical to their roles. Building inner strength through self-reflection and seeking support when needed ensures that practitioners can continue their essential work without depleting themselves.

Inner Strength in Crisis Moments

Mahi: What about moments of acute crisis, like an assault or a traumatic event? How do practitioners find the strength to keep going?

Manaan: Moments like those are where inner strength truly shines. Practitioners often rely on their training and their personal resilience to process what has happened and to continue caring for their patients. They draw on their sense of purpose—their commitment to making a difference—to move forward.

Having a strong support system, both personally and professionally, is also critical. Peer debriefing after traumatic events can help practitioners process their experiences and regain their emotional balance. These supportive environments remind them that they’re not alone, which is a crucial component of resilience.

The Broader Impacts of Inner Strength

Mahi: And it’s not just mental health practitioners, is it? Inner strength benefits everyone—children, adults, families. It’s a universal value.

Manaan: Exactly. Building inner strength doesn’t just help us as individuals—it also creates ripples of resilience in our communities. Families with strong inner resilience are better equipped to face collective challenges, whether it’s financial hardship, illness, or other crises. Communities built on mutual support and inner strength can recover more quickly from disasters or tragedies.

Building Strength for the Future

Mahi: So, whether we’re helping someone through a crisis or simply managing the ups and downs of daily life, inner strength is what keeps us grounded and moving forward.

Manaan: That’s right, Mahi. And the beauty of inner strength is that it’s not fixed—it can be nurtured and developed at any age. Through practices like mindfulness, gratitude, and self-reflection, we can all build our resilience and deepen our capacity to face life’s challenges with courage and grace.

Inner strength is a value that not only helps us endure—it helps us grow. And in the process, it becomes a source of inspiration for others, creating a ripple effect of hope, healing, and resilience.

Mahi: That’s so beautifully said, Manaan. Inner strength is truly a gift we give to ourselves and to those we care for. Let’s all take a moment to appreciate the strength within us and look for ways to keep nurturing it—every single day.

Section 6: Discussion Prompts for Courageous Conversations

Mahi: Now comes one of my favorite parts—discussion prompts! These questions are a wonderful way for families to explore inner strength together and connect Sunny’s journey to their own lives. Each value we’ve explored in The Courage to Explore—courage with Leo, adventure with Max, curiosity with Milo, wonder with Hazel, and now inner strength with Goro—forms a piece of the puzzle. Together, they show how values work hand in hand to guide us through life’s challenges.

Mahi: So, let’s start with this: What does inner strength mean to you, and how did Sunny show it during the climb up the rocky hillside?

Manaan: That’s a great question to help children reflect on what inner strength looks like. You might say, “Remember how Sunny didn’t give up when the climb got tough? He took one step at a time, even when the path seemed impossible.”

Mahi: And that’s the thing, isn’t it? Inner strength isn’t about being the fastest or strongest—it’s about believing in yourself, just like Sunny did. And he had to call on what he learned from Leo about courage to even begin the climb. Sometimes, courage is the spark, and inner strength is what keeps the fire burning.

Manaan: Exactly. Families can guide this conversation by asking, “What helps you keep going when something feels hard?” It could be remembering something brave they’ve done before, like how Sunny thought back to his adventures with Leo, Max, Milo, and Hazel.

Mahi: Here’s another one to explore: Why do you think Goro said that inner strength isn’t just about being strong on the outside?

Manaan: This is such a powerful distinction. Parents might guide kids by asking, “What’s the difference between lifting something heavy and staying calm when you’re upset?” That helps kids see that inner strength is more about what’s in your heart and mind.

Mahi: Exactly. Just like Max taught Sunny that adventure doesn’t always have to be about big, daring acts, Goro showed Sunny that strength doesn’t have to be loud or visible. Sometimes, the strongest thing you can do is stay patient and keep trying, even when things are tough.

Mahi: Here’s a really personal one: Can you think of a time when you used inner strength to get through a difficult moment?

Manaan: This is where families can share their own experiences. Parents might say, “I remember a time when I had to keep going even though I felt like giving up. What about you? Have you ever faced something hard and found a way to keep going?”

Mahi: Kids might talk about learning something new, like riding a bike, or being brave in a tough situation. It’s a chance to connect Sunny’s climb to their own lives. And don’t forget, Milo the Meerkat taught Sunny that curiosity can help you find new ways to solve problems. Inner strength and curiosity often go hand in hand.

Mahi: Here’s a visual question: How do you think Sunny’s journey up the hill helped him understand what inner strength feels like?

Manaan: Families could talk about how reaching the top must have felt for Sunny. Relief? Pride? Maybe even wonder, like what Hazel the Hummingbird showed him. You might say, “Sometimes when we look back at how far we’ve come, we realize we’re stronger than we thought.”

Mahi: And that’s such a key lesson. Inner strength isn’t just about climbing—it’s also about pausing to celebrate the journey. Goro taught Sunny that it’s okay to take a moment to reflect and feel proud of how far you’ve come.

Mahi: This next one is all about teamwork: How do you think the elephants showed inner strength when they crossed the river together?

Manaan: I love this question because it shows how inner strength isn’t always something you do alone. Parents might ask, “How did the elephants use their strength to support each other?” It’s a chance to explore how we can lean on others, just like the elephants leaned on one another.

Mahi: And it connects beautifully to Milo’s lesson about curiosity. The elephants noticed each other’s strengths—who could lead, who needed extra support—and worked together to make it across. Inner strength often grows when we help others find theirs.

Mahi: Here’s a really meaningful one to end with: How can you use inner strength in your daily life, like Sunny will use it to stay connected to Tommy and Lily?

Manaan: This is where inner strength overlaps with wonder. Hazel taught Sunny to notice and appreciate the beauty around him, including his friendships. Families might say, “Even when you’re far away from someone you love, inner strength helps you keep them close in your heart.”

Mahi: It’s such an important reminder. Whether it’s courage, curiosity, wonder, or strength, these values help us stay connected to the people and things that matter most.

Mahi: These prompts are a great way to spark meaningful conversations. Whether it’s about climbing a hill, facing a challenge, or helping someone else find their strength, there’s so much to explore together.

Manaan: And when we tie in all the values from The Courage to Explore—courage, adventure, curiosity, wonder, and strength—it shows how these values work together to build a strong, resilient heart. Inner strength is like the glue that holds them all together, helping us face life with determination and grace.

Mahi: So true. Families, take these questions and make them your own. Let the conversations flow, and who knows? You might even discover your own hidden strengths along the way.

7. Movie & Novel Character Spotlight (5 mins)

Mahi: Now let’s talk about some iconic characters who show inner strength. Who comes to mind for you, Manaan?

Manaan: I’d say Mulan from Disney’s Mulan. She’s not the strongest warrior physically, but her inner courage and determination allow her to save her people. Her strength comes from her love for her family and her willingness to persevere in the face of doubt.

Mahi: I love that choice! Another character that stands out for me is Matilda from Roald Dahl’s Matilda. She’s small and quiet, but her strength comes from her brilliant mind and the resilience she develops. She doesn’t let her challenging home life defeat her; instead, she finds her own voice and stands up for herself.

8. Country Spotlight: Iceland – A Land of Strength and Resilience

Mahi: For today’s cultural spotlight, let’s journey to Iceland, a country that embodies resilience and inner strength through its people, culture, and landscapes. Iceland’s history is a testament to perseverance in the face of extreme challenges, and its natural wonders inspire awe and fortitude.

Manaan: That’s such a great choice, Mahi. Icelanders have a deep connection to their land, which is both breathtakingly beautiful and incredibly harsh. The volcanic eruptions, unpredictable weather, and long, dark winters have shaped a culture of inner strength and adaptability.

Mahi: Absolutely. The Icelandic concept of þrautseigja—which translates roughly to “tenacity” or “grit”—is at the heart of their way of life. It’s about enduring hardship with quiet strength and finding ways to thrive despite adversity.

Manaan: And you can see this resilience in how Icelanders approach challenges. For example, after the 2010 Eyjafjallajökull volcanic eruption caused global disruption, the people didn’t just rebuild; they found ways to turn the event into an opportunity, showcasing their culture and landscapes to the world. That spirit of turning challenges into possibilities is a powerful example of inner strength.

Mahi: It’s also reflected in Iceland’s focus on community and cooperation. Much like how Goro helped Sunny on his climb, Icelanders have always relied on supporting one another. Their tightly knit communities emphasize the strength that comes from working together.

Manaan: And let’s not forget the landscapes themselves. From the stark beauty of glaciers to the raw power of geysers, Iceland’s natural features remind us of the balance between strength and calm—much like Goro’s lessons about inner strength being steady and enduring, not just forceful.

Mahi: It’s inspiring to see how Iceland’s culture and nature intertwine to create a unique perspective on resilience. Inner strength isn’t just about enduring—it’s about adapting, thriving, and finding beauty in the journey, just as the Icelandic people have done for centuries.

Manaan: That’s so true, Mahi. Iceland reminds us that inner strength, like the land itself, is both powerful and enduring. It’s a lesson we can all carry with us in our own lives.

9. Reflecting on the Journey in The Courage to Explore

Mahi: As we wrap up Volume 2, The Courage to Explore, it’s the perfect time to reflect on the incredible journey Sunny has taken—and the values he’s embraced along the way. From courage with Leo to adventure with Max, curiosity with Milo, wonder with Hazel, and now inner strength with Goro, each value has shaped him into a more resilient and thoughtful explorer.

Manaan: That’s right, Mahi. Each of these values is like a building block, creating a foundation for life’s many journeys. Courage taught Sunny to face fear head-on, adventure inspired him to embrace the unknown, curiosity opened the door to discovery, wonder filled him with awe, and inner strength showed him the power of perseverance and grounding. Together, these values form a circle of growth and resilience—guiding Sunny, and us, through life’s challenges and joys.

Mahi: And as we pause for our Christmas break, it feels like the right moment to carry these values into our own lives. Whether it’s courage to start something new, curiosity to ask questions, or inner strength to keep going when things get tough, these lessons aren’t just for Sunny—they’re for all of us.

Manaan: Absolutely. And speaking of new journeys, Mahi, I want to take this moment to say how incredibly proud I am of you as you begin your next chapter in the UK. You’ve embodied the values of this volume in so many ways—stepping into new adventures with courage, approaching every challenge with curiosity, and bringing wonder and strength to everything you do.

Mahi: Thank you, Manaan. It’s been such a privilege to be part of this journey with you and our listeners. While I’m heading off, I hope to carry these values with me every step of the way—and who knows? Maybe I’ll pop back in for an episode or two from across the world!

Manaan: I hope so, Mahi. And in January 2025, when we return to explore Volume 3, The Art of Wisdom, we’ll start with a new value—wisdom itself. Here’s a little hint about Sunny’s next guide: it’s an animal known for its quiet observation and deep learning.

Mahi: I can’t wait to hear the guesses! And in the meantime, thank you all for being part of this journey.

10. Closing with Warm Christmas Wishes and a New Year Reflection

Mahi: As we close this special episode, let’s leave you with a beautiful thought from Helen Keller: “Although the world is full of suffering, it is also full of the overcoming of it.”

Manaan: What an inspiring reminder that inner strength allows us to rise above challenges. And as we prepare to step into this season of rest, joy, and renewal, it’s a perfect time to reflect on the values we’ve explored together—courage, adventure, curiosity, wonder, and strength.

Mahi: To all our listeners, we wish you the warmest Christmas filled with love, laughter, and the spirit of these values. Let this holiday season be a time to connect with the people you care about, reflect on your own inner strength, and find moments of wonder in the world around you.

Manaan: And as the New Year approaches, think about how these values can guide your resolutions. Maybe it’s courage to start something new, curiosity to learn something you’ve always wanted to, or inner strength to tackle a long-term goal. Whatever you choose, let these values help shape a year filled with growth and purpose.

Mahi: Thank you for being part of this journey with us. As I prepare for my own new adventure in the UK, I’ll carry these values with me—and I hope you will too.

Manaan: Mahi, as you head into this exciting chapter, may your journey be filled with courage, adventure, curiosity, wonder, and strength. You’ve brought so much light to this podcast, and I know you’ll continue to shine wherever you go.

Mahi: Thank you, Manaan. And to our listeners—Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and may your 2025 be filled with all the values we’ve shared. Stay strong, stay curious, and keep exploring, learning, and growing.

Manaan: See you in January 2025 for The Art of Wisdom. Until then, take care, and may your holidays be truly magical.

The Power of Inner Strength: Reflecting on Episode 65 of the PROTECT Podcast

As we close out the year and Volume 2: The Courage to Explore of the PROTECT Podcast, Episode 65 invites us to pause and reflect on the profound value of inner strength. This episode marks a turning point—not just for Sunny’s adventure in Terra Vale, but also for the podcast itself, as host Mahi prepares to embark on her own exciting journey in 2025. Let’s dive into the themes, lessons, and heartfelt moments that made this episode unforgettable.

A Bittersweet Farewell and a Celebration of Growth

The episode begins on a poignant note, with Mahi and Dr. Manaan Kar Ray reflecting on their year of podcasting and the incredible journey they’ve shared with listeners. For Mahi, this episode is particularly special as it may be her last as the host before she leaves for the UK to study medicine.

Dr. Kar Ray takes a moment to recognize Mahi’s remarkable growth since starting the podcast at age 16. From her early days as a curious teenager to becoming a polished host, voice artist, and storyteller, Mahi has brought warmth, insight, and energy to every episode. Her journey has been one of courage, adventure, curiosity, wonder, and strength—the very values that Sunny has explored in The Courage to Explore.

While Mahi’s departure marks a new chapter for the podcast, her contributions remain its foundation. With the possibility of her younger brother Mayank stepping into the role of host, the podcast stands poised for its next evolution, just as Sunny prepares for the next leg of his journey in Terra Vale.

Inner Strength: A Quiet, Resilient Force

In this episode, Sunny meets Goro the Gorilla, a calm and powerful guide who teaches him about inner strength. As Dr. Kar Ray explains, inner strength is a value that transcends physical power. It is the quiet resilience that keeps us grounded during life’s most challenging moments.

Drawing from quotes by Mahatma Gandhi—“Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will”—and Helen Keller—“We could never learn to be brave and patient if there were only joy in the world”—the episode emphasizes how inner strength grows through adversity. Sunny’s journey with Goro demonstrates that true strength is found in perseverance, patience, and the ability to keep moving forward, even when the path is steep and uncertain.